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Bishop Vasa: Individual Bishops Trump Conference Every Time

 

"Those who have the highest places in My Son's Church are now using their rank to destroy the truth. You cannot build on the carnal nature of mankind, the fallen nature of mankind.     
     "You must now, My children, read the direction given you by Saint John. He was given the prophecy of your times. You are in those days, My children, the days of apostasy." - Our Lady of the Roses, October 6, 1975 

 

LifeSiteNews.com reported on September 22, 2010:

The authority of the Catholic bishop within his own diocese trumps the national bishops’ conference and "no bishop has an obligation" to adopt the conference’s documents, asserted Bishop Robert Vasa of Baker, Oregon in a landmark talk last week.

"Such documents do not become normative for a particular diocese unless the bishop, either explicitly or implicitly, recommends them,” he told the 2010 InsideCatholic Partnership Award Dinner last Thursday.

Catholic bishops who boldly promote life and family in their diocese have often been condemned for acting more strongly than the national conference of bishops (USCCB), for example by refusing Communion to pro-abortion politicians.  Similarly, pro-life and pro-family advocates have long complained that conference statements are vague and confusing, even misleading.

Deal Hudson of InsideCatholic said Bishop Vasa is the first U.S. bishop he is aware of to tackle “the prevalent misunderstanding” over the relation between the authority of the individual bishop versus that of the USCCB.  Judie Brown, president of American Life League and a member of the Pontifical Academy for Life, agreed.  “Having been involved in this for over 35 years, I can tell you that this speech is long overdue,” she said.

According to Bishop Vasa, statements from bishops’ conferences necessarily tend to be "flattened" and "vague," allowing certain teachings to "fall by the wayside through what could be called, charitably, a kind of benign pastoral neglect."

While some call this compassion, “in truth, it often entails a complicity or a compromise with evil,” he says.  “The harder and less popular teachings are left largely unspoken, thereby implicitly giving tacit approval to erroneous or misleading theological opinions.”

"I fear that there has been such a steady diet of such flattened documents that anything issued by individual bishops that contains some element of strength,” he says, “is readily and roundly condemned or simply dismissed as being out of touch with the conference or in conflict with what other bishops might do."

This matter has often come up in the realm of life and family issues.  For example, during the 2008 U.S. federal election campaign Bishop Joseph Martino of Scranton was forced to assert his episcopal authority within his diocese after a liberal group used the USCCB document on voting (Forming Consciences for Faithful Citizenship) to argue that Catholics can vote for a pro-abortion candidate.

“No USCCB document is relevant in this diocese,” he insisted, telling them they should have discussed his own pastoral letter where he insisted that Catholics must vote pro-life.

Likewise, while the USCCB has allowed distribution of Communion to pro-abortion politicians – contrary to a letter sent them by Cardinal Joseph Ratzinger at the time of their deliberation – numerous bishops, such as Archbishop Raymond Burke, when he was in St. Louis, have forbidden it.

According to Bishop Vasa, pastoral documents “are open to a broad range of interpretation and misinterpretation. ... A charge could be brought that such documents are intentionally vague and misleading.”

“While I have had an occasional suspicion of this myself, it would be a serious defect of charity on my part to speculate about whether this is actually the case,” he continued.  “I would say that the vagueness, whether intentional or not, has occasionally been a cause of concern and even consternation.”

While he says the conference is “both practical and desirable” for communication and joint efforts such as liturgical translations and disaster relief, Bishop Vasa notes there is “room for concern about the tendency of the conference to take on a life of its own and to begin to replace or displace the proper role of individual bishops, even in their own dioceses.”

“It is easy to forget that the conference is the vehicle to assist bishops in cooperating with each other and not a separate regulatory commission,” he added.  Further, he noted that “there may also be an unfortunate tendency on the part of bishops to abdicate to the conference a portion of their episcopal role and duty.”

Compared to the “flattened documents” that often result from "the search for consensus,” statements from individual bishops, he says, "are often stronger, bolder, more decisive, and thus more likely to be criticized as harsh and insensitive."

Gentle appeals have their place, he says, “but when constant appeal produces absolutely no movement toward self-correction, reform or conversion, then reproving and correcting, become necessary.”

“At some point, there needs to be a bold resistance to the powers of the world in defense of the flock,” he continues.  “The fear of offending one contemptuously dissident member of the flock often redounds to a failure to defend the flock. It can redound to a failure to teach the truth.”

“Fortunately, courage is contagious,” he notes, pointing to the examples of courage provided by prelates such as Archbishop Raymond Burke, and Bishops Joseph Martino, Thomas Tobin, Thomas Olmsted, and Fabian Bruskewitz.  “These men all encourage you, and they encourage me as well,” he says.

“On the issues of life and marriage, many Catholics want a strong voice and one that is prophetic,” said Deal Hudson.  “They don’t want the voice of some committee trying to be diplomatic to everybody.”

Judie Brown said Bishop Vasa has sent “a cannon over the bow of the USCCB,” putting the conference bureaucracy “in the proper perspective.”  “They aren’t teachers of the Catholic faith, they are not shepherds, and they are literally destroying the Church by misrepresenting Catholic teaching,” she said.

Find the full address at the InsideCatholic website here.  

 

"My child, they converse of the secret that I gave at Fatima. It is a simple explanation. It could not be fully revealed because of the drastic nature of My message. How I warned and warned that satan would enter into the highest realms of the hierarchy in Rome. The Third Secret, My child, is that satan would enter into My Son's Church." - Our Lady of the Roses, May 13, 1978

"I gave Lucy the Revelation as a temporary secret—as I revealed [the Third Secret] to you on two occasions. Make a concerted effort to bring its entirety to Our children on earth. The hierarchy have not listened to My counsel—thirty-two years lost in indecision and fear of exposure. The Faith is shattered for many." - Our Lady of the Roses, April 29, 1992

Our Lady of the Roses Bayside message: 

These messages came from Jesus, Mary, and the saints to Veronica Lueken at Bayside, NY, from 1968 to 1995.

THE  GREAT  APOSTASY
"Do not accept the fallacy that any man upon earth and mankind are gods. There is but one God. And no man shall set himself above his Master. O My children, cannot you recognize the signs of your times? The great apostasy is upon you!" - Our Lady, December 7, 1976 

USING  RANK  TO  DESTROY
"Those who have the highest places in My Son's Church are now using their rank to destroy the truth. You cannot build on the carnal nature of mankind, the fallen nature of mankind.
     "You must now, My children, read the direction given you by Saint John. He was given the prophecy of your times. You are in those days, My children, the days of apostasy." - Our Lady, October 6, 1975 

THE  SWORD
"Mankind shall feel a sword upon his world. The Eternal Father has endured your apostasy, your arrogance, your heresy much too long! As an errant and ungrateful generation given to sin and abominations of the flesh, you shall be forced to your knees by trial." - St. Michael, July 15, 1975 

SISTER  LUCY
"I wish at this time, My children, to repeat again the need to write, to speak, to meet with the Holy Father in Rome, and plead with him to have Lucy come forward and tell the Third Secret word for word, as I give to you each evening on My appearances upon the grounds of Bayside, and Flushing Meadows." - Our Lady, June 18, 1986

SCORNED,  DISCARDED,  HIDDEN
"Many years have gone by, My children, since I tried to warn you at Fatima. My message was scorned then by many, discarded and hidden from the world, but My message now cannot be discarded or kept hidden, for you have reached now a point in your life, My children, your lifetime upon your earth, when your days are now being counted." - Our Lady, February 10, 1977

FATIMA  
"My child, how many warnings have I sent upon the world, and yet they go unheeded. 
"I wish that you make known, or refresh the memory of My children with My visit to the land of Fatima." - Our Lady, April 13, 1974

THIRD  SECRET
"My child, they converse of the secret that I gave at Fatima. It is a simple explanation. It could not be fully revealed because of the drastic nature of My message. How I warned and warned that satan would enter into the highest realms of the hierarchy in Rome. The Third Secret, My child, is that satan would enter into My Son's Church." - Our Lady, May 13, 1978

"YOU  DID  NOT  LISTEN"
"My Mother came to you at Fatima warning that unless man stopped his path to perdition, Russia would spread her errors throughout your world causing misery, sufferings, and death and enslavement. My children, you did not listen and act upon Her counsel then, just as many now do not listen and act upon Her counsel. It is a part of human nature to exercise too free a will to reject. And this, I say, falls also onto My pastors who are scattering My sheep in My House." - Our Lady, May 27, 1978

CAST  ASIDE
"My warnings at Fatima were cast aside as they are being cast aside now, My children. It is a failing of human nature, My child, that that which does not give pleasure to the carnal nature of man is not accepted. Man shall blind himself to the truth, as he does not wish to face the truth. And those who seek to bring him the truth are cast aside and do much penance, My child." - Our Lady, September 13, 1975

THE FIGHT FOR POWER HAS BEGUN
"The forces of evil are gathering.  666 now controls all the world, and sad to say, My children, 666 has entered upon Rome, and the fight for power has begun.  Pray for your Vicar.  Pray for all men of sin, and above all, My children, pray for your children, for many parents shall shed tears of great remorsetoo late!" - Jesus, September 28, 1976  

IN THE YEAR 1972
"Satan, Lucifer in human form, entered into Rome in the year 1972. He cut off the rule, the role of the Holy Father, Pope Paul VI. Lucifer has controlled Rome and continues this control now.
    "And I tell you now, My children, unless you pray and make My counsel known to all of the ruling fathers of the Eternal City of Rome, My Son's Church, His House, will be forced into the catacombs. A great struggle lies ahead for mankind. The eventual outcome is for good of all, for this trial in My Son's Church will be a true proving ground for all the faithful. Many latter-day saints shall rise out of the tribulation." - Our Lady, September 7, 1978

HIGHEST REALMS OF THE HIERARCHY
"My child, they converse of the secret that I gave at Fatima. It is a simple explanation. It could not be fully revealed because of the drastic nature of My message. How I warned and warned that satan would enter into the highest realms of the hierarchy in Rome. The Third Secret, My child, is that satan would enter into My Son's Church." - Our Lady, May 13, 1978

Directives

D127 - Vatican II   PDF LogoPDF
D129 - Third Secret Explained: Part 1 - 666 in Rome  
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D130 - Third Secret Explained: Part 2 - Satan entered the Church in 1972  
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D131 - Third Secret Explained: Part 3 - Satan entered the highest realms of the hierarchy  
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D132 -
Third Secret Explained: Part 4 - There shall be bishop against bishop and cardinal against cardinal, as satan has set himself in their midst.   PDF LogoPDF
D161 -  The Great Apostasy  PDF LogoPDF
D169 - Stigma of a Fallen Hierarchy, Part 1  PDF LogoPDF
D170 - Stigma of a Fallen Hierarchy, Part 2   PDF Logo
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D171 - Stigma of a Fallen Hierarchy, Part 3   PDF Logo
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Evidence for the REAL Third Secret of Fatima:

Witness to the impostor pope: an Immaculate Heart of Mary nun sees Pope Paul VI and impostor pope within minutes of each other
WitnessToTheImpostorPope.htm


Warnings from Beyond: A Swiss exorcism reveals existence of an impostor to Pope Paul VI
WarningsFromBeyond2of3.htm


Cardinal Oddi on the REAL Third Secret of Fatima: "The Blessed Virgin was alerting us against the apostasy in the Church"
ThirdSecretCardinalOddi.htm


Fr. Alonso, official achivist of Fatima: The REAL Third Secret of Fatima warned of apostasy in the Church
ThirdSecretFatherAlonso.htm

Evidence of the REAL Third Secret: Fr. Malachi Martin affirms that satanism has been practiced in the Vatican
MalachiMartin.htm

Evidence of the REAL Third Secret: The "deception of the century"
impostor.htm

Evidence of the REAL Third Secret: The murder of Pope John Paul I
PopeJohnPaulI.htm

Evidence of the REAL Third Secret: "Satan would enter into the highest realms of the hierarchy"
highestrealms.htm

Evidence of the REAL Third Secret: Communist agents have infiltrated into the Catholic hierarchy to destroy from within
infiltrators.htm

Evidence of the REAL Third Secret: World's most famous exorcist has said, "legions of demons that have installed themselves in the Vatican"
exorcism1.htm

Evidence of the REAL Third Secret: Man who shot Pope John Paul II says, "Without the help of some priests and cardinals I could not have done it"
CardinalsHelpedMehmetAliAgca.htm

Evidence of the REAL Third Secret: Jacinta told Mother Godinho the Third Secret, but...
StTheresa3rdSecret.htm

 

 

Videos online:


Vatican II
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Deception of the Century
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Third Secret Fabrication
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The Miraculous Story of Bayside
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A Pilgrimage to Our Lady of the Roses Shrine
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Jacinta's Third Secret vision: She saw Pope Paul VI
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Consecrate Russia
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