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"There is in your outer atmosphere the celestial object that will be sent upon you in the will of the Eternal Father." - Our Lady, March 22, 1975
Our Lady of the Roses has always been right; She is not
like us. We sinners make countless mistakes on a daily basis due to our fallen
human nature.
Our Lady, the Mother of Jesus, was preserved by God from
all this.
So when Our Lady says something, it is true. We might not
understand it, but prayer and investigation will eventually shed light on what
Our Lady meant, and why it is true.
Take for example Our Lady of the Roses prophecy given on
June 30, 1984:
"It has not started, My child, but there will be great confusion, and war shall
break out in the western part of
At the time, Many Baysiders and critics of the message thought that Our
Lady was clearly mistaken, that the quote should have been, "in
So with this lesson in mind, I have paid even more
attention to details in Our Lady's messages at Bayside and have given special attention when
a word seems to be out of place, because this may indicate an important detail
that is not immediately apparent. Several phrases in the messages have gnawed at
me for years. Our Lady said on
March 22, 1975
that the Ball of Redemption "is in your
outer atmosphere" and on
June 18, 1991,
"it has been seen by the few."
To explain what I mean by this I need to tell a true story,
what three members of my family witnessed (including myself) in August of 1975.
In August 1975 my family took our yearly vacation, that
year at Le Trianon Resort at
So one night, between 9-10 p.m., my Dad, brother and myself
were outside admiring the stars in the beautiful clear night sky. My brother was
facing south, looking up at the stars. My Dad and I were facing
north, with a mountain ridge in view. My brother was on the left, my Dad in the
middle, and I was on the right.
Suddenly, my brother exclaimed, "Something is making the
stars disappear!" I immediately thought to myself, what a ridiculous statement.
My Dad and I wondered what in the world he was
talking about.
And then we all saw it together: Something huge, perfectly
round, was silhouetted in a glowing halo (similar to the glow around a new
moon), and silently passed from southwest to northeast in front of us. It
was visible for about 20-30 seconds, moving slowly across the night sky
above.
Other campers who were outside likewise saw it, some
pointing up to the sky.
What was most horrifying was the massive inferno of orange flames forming a tail far behind the black object. This tail of flames was not attached, but widely separated, perhaps about seven lengths behind. The flames formed a waving horizontal inferno. I was hard-pressed to find anything nearly resembling what I saw, until I found this slow motion video of a forest fire which is a small version, a similarity, to what I saw.
I was in shock, and thought this is the end of the world.
My brother and I both thought it would hit a mountain in the distance, so big
and low it seemed to us. Once it hits, I thought, we're all dead.
But it did not hit. To my surprise it passed behind the
mountain in the distance. It was very far away.
My brother told me that when he first saw the stars
disappearing (the object was so big it blocked out the view of stars), there was
no halo around it, nor flames behind it. The halo and flames appeared a few
seconds later. What we can deduce from this observation is that when my brother
first saw the object, it was not low enough yet in our atmosphere to ignite the
gases. The surface of the object remained completely black throughout its
visibility to us.
Very black,
seemingly unreflective
One of my certain observations about this object is that it
was completely black, much more than even a new moon. I could not make out any
details on its surface. After viewing many space videos on Youtube, I found a
comment which described the Rosetta Philae probe's discovery of "complex
carbonaceous dust [on a comet], which is darker than asphalt" (watch
video).
So I searched Our Lady of the Roses messages and found
that Veronica, on more than one occasion, described it as a "black ball". From the
February 10, 1978
message:
Veronica - Now Our Lady is raising Her crucifix and
pointing over to the right side. O
my heavens! (Veronica gags)
Oh, I can feel it; it’s like choking me.
There is a tremendous black ball
in the sky, and it has a dark tail.
I never saw anything like this. It’s, it’s—oh, it’s terrible-looking.
It gives you a feeling of death.
It’s a horrible-looking thing.
It seems to be turning and turning and turning about in the sky.
Now it seems to be making a swerving curve, and it’s heading down, like
here towards the trees! Oh, it’s a
frightening-looking sight! O,
Blessed Mother! (February 10, 1978)
Of
course the big question is: How big was it? I recall that its angular size was
much wider than the moon, its circumference was much bigger, making its
perfectly round shape very apparent. I would say it was between fist size to
soccer ball size at arm's length, at least. My brother thought it was the size
of two footballs, placed end to end in diameter.
My brother's recollection would make it bigger than my
observations.
So I can safely say that it was at least 10-20 degrees in
diameter, between the width of a fist to the width of a hand with extended
fingers. This will provide one of the key observations for roughly determining
its size as we discuss "the Rule of 57" later in this article.
Furthermore, my observation that it appeared
perfectly round made for a shocking discovery when I researched more about this.
The minimum size for an object to become perfectly round through the effects of
its own gravity is 600 km, or approximately 373 miles in diameter.
In determining how high in the atmosphere this object was,
it would be best to first exclude where it was not. Typically meteors burn up in the
mesosphere, which is around 50-85 km (31-53 miles) above the earth. The density
of the atmosphere below that distance cause meteors to start burning up with
friction, and they become very bright as a great deal of energy is given off in
the form of light and heat.
Such was the case of the bus-sized fireball over
No sonic booms,
and no brightening of the object itself
When we discussed our observations years ago, my brother was curious why we didn't hear any sonic boom, why it was entirely silent. It was so big that he expected there to be a roar as it passed overheard. So I looked around on the internet and found that sonic booms from incoming meteors generally won't be heard above 60 miles.
So this is yet another observation verifying how far above
the earth this giant object was: It had to be above 60 miles in the atmosphere.
In the outer
atmosphere
Our Lady of the Roses was very specific in the
March 22, 1975
message about the location of the Ball of Redemption, at least for one point in
time: "There is in your outer atmosphere
the celestial object that will be sent upon you in the will of the Eternal
Father."
One definition of the
upper atmosphere is "The part of the
atmosphere above the troposphere. The upper atmosphere includes the mesosphere,
the ionosphere, the thermosphere, and the exosphere."
The mesosphere is from 50-56 miles above the earth, which
is the minimum height of the upper atmosphere.
If the object my family saw was in the thermosphere, this
would fit the definition given by Our Lady on March 22, 1975, and this message
was amazingly more than four months before my family witnessed
seeing the object.
What caused the
formation of the huge, fiery tail?
Here's another reason why I think this object was in the thermosphere.
The fact that when my brother first saw the object there was no fiery tail nor halo indicates that the object was either in space or the exosphere (the highest point of the atmosphere). A few seconds later, at its closest approach, the gases around the object became hot enough to ignite. The thermosphere can reach up to 2,700 - 3,100 degrees F in temperature.
The thermosphere is between 56-620 miles above the earth's
surface.
"The thermosphere extends from about 56 miles (90 km) to
between 310 and 620 miles (500 and 1,000 km). Temperatures can get up to 2,700
degrees F (1,500 C) at this altitude." (Read
more)
According to Wikipedia, "Within this layer of the
atmosphere, ultraviolet radiation causes photoionization/photodissociation of
molecules, creating ions in the ionosphere. Taking its name from the Greek
θερμός (pronounced thermos) meaning heat, the thermosphere begins at about 80 km
(50 mi) above sea level. At these high altitudes, the residual atmospheric gases
sort into strata according to molecular mass (see turbosphere). Thermospheric
temperatures increase with altitude due to absorption of highly energetic solar
radiation. Temperatures are highly dependent on solar activity, and can rise to
1,700 °C (3,100 °F) or more." (Read
more)
The highest temperatures are in the upper thermosphere: "High-energy X-rays and UV radiation from the Sun are absorbed in the thermosphere, raising its temperature to hundreds or at times thousands of degrees…. Variations in the amount of energy coming from the Sun exert a powerful influence on both the height of the top of this layer and the temperature within it. Because of this, the top of the thermosphere can be found anywhere between 500 and 1,000 km (311 to 621 miles) above the ground. Temperatures in the upper thermosphere can range from about 500° C (932° F) to 2,000° C (3,632° F) or higher." (Read more)
Experts contest what exactly is the uppermost layer of the atmosphere: "Although some experts consider the thermosphere to be the uppermost layer of our atmosphere, others consider the exosphere to be the actual 'final frontier' of Earth's gaseous envelope."
But the top layer of the thermosphere seems to be the most
probable height of the object (311 to 621 miles), because the heat in this
region would have been hot enough to ignite the gases surrounding the object
that my family saw, and it would account for three observations: (1) that at the
beginning it lacked a halo and a fiery tail; (2) entering the upper thermosphere
would account for the formation of the halo and fiery tail; and (3) at the
height of the thermosphere, this would account for the facts that it was silent
(no sonic boom) and that the object did not light up and turn brilliantly bright
(some fireballs have briefly turned night into the brightness of day for a split
second), as is observed when
meteors begin to burn up in the mesosphere at 56 miles and below.
So my next step was finding a mathematical formula to
approximate the size of the object that we saw. I found a formula called "the
Rule of 57" which worked well.
Size if the
object was 60 miles above the earth
By plugging in an angular size of 20 degrees (observed
angular size of object in the sky) at a height of 60 miles in the atmosphere,
the object would have been approximately 21 miles in diameter.
Size if the
object was 600 miles above the earth
Of course, the higher the object was in the sky, the bigger
its actual size. If the object was at the uppermost levels of the thermosphere,
around 600 miles, then its size would be ten times larger, a whopping 210 miles in
diameter.
The larger calculation of 210 miles in diameter is still
less than the minimum
of 373 miles in diameter for an
object to become spherical, through the effects of its own gravity.
And that is what I saw: A massive, jet black and perfectly
round sphere.
Let me be clear: We did not merely see a big meteor,
we saw another world.
Our Lady of the Roses mentioned many times that the Ball of
Redemption was a comet (the following messages specifically use the word "comet"
when associated with the Ball of Redemption: February 10, 1973; March 25, 1973;
May 30, 1973; July 25, 1975; August 14, 1978; August 25, 1985; and November 1, 1985).
Veronica also described in numerous visions that massive
meteors would be breaking off of the main comet as it circled the earth. In the
September 14, 1985
message Our Lady told Veronica, "No, My child, you do not know the force of
these meteors. They shall burn until they hit the land."
Also, on
May 10, 1973
Veronica described the Ball of Redemption as not being a sun, but something
else: "And the tail, it's all colors of the rainbow. But there's great heat. The
tail, there is—falling from the tail now is a great deal of what looks like
vapor and smoke. Oh, it's a choking, smoky vapors. Oh! And I notice now the
vapors cover the moon and the sun. So
this is not a sun, but something—a ball that looks like a huge sun."
Clearly, the Ball of Redemption is a solid, rocky object,
not a gaseous object like the sun.
Yet Our Lady of the Roses also mentioned that the Ball of
Redemption would appear as a "second sun." Our Lady stated on
December 31, 1974,
"A second sun lies out in your atmosphere, the Ball of Redemption. I repeat, My
children, it is not a myth, nor a story; it is a fact." This
can be explained by the fact that a comet has a surrounding halo, or coma, that
can be as large as the diameter of the sun, or larger. "Comet 17P/Holmes briefly
had a tenuous dust atmosphere larger than the Sun. The Great Comet of 1811 also
had a coma roughly the diameter of the Sun" (read
more).
Our Lady of the Roses message is directed to the entire world, a call for worldwide conversion and the restoration of the Roman Catholic Church to its former glory. Similar to Jonah's warnings to the Ninevites, if people respond to God's warnings and change their lives, God has granted reprieves from the punishment He has threatened. Such was the case in 1973, when Our Lady told Veronica on December 29, 1973 that the Great Warning and Chastisement had been delayed, due to the favorable response to Our Lady's message, and particularly through the efforts of Ver Demain in Canada of spreading the Bayside message throughout the world.
One of the questions is if Comet Kohoutek was the Ball of Redemption, as Comet Kohoutek had been discovered on March 7, 1973 and was clearly visible in the latter part of that year. Initially dubbed the "Comet of the Century," it was "discovered farther from the sun (73.9 million km) and earlier (7 months before perihelion) than any previously reported comet", and "its brightness when discovered indicated that it was exceptionally large." (Read more).
A disturbing discovery by scientists was that Comet Kohoutek's radio frequency radiation indicated the presence of the "molecules hydrogen cyanide and methyl cyanide." Hydrogen cyanide is extremely lethal and has been used in capital punishment for the execution of criminals, and was used in World War I as a chemical weapon. According to Wikipedia, "A hydrogen cyanide concentration in the range of 100–200 ppm in air will kill a human within 10 to 60 minutes. A hydrogen cyanide concentration of 2000 ppm (about 2380 mg/m3) will kill a human in about one minute."
And it is not only Comet Kohoutek that contains hydrogen cyanide. Dr. Michael Mumma, senior scientist at the NASA Goddard Space Flight Center, states, "Comet Hyakutake and indeed most other comets contain about 1/10 of 1% ice in the form of hydrogen cyanide. Hydrogen cyanide is, for those of you who may not know it, is what we use in some places to execute criminals. This is a highly poisonous gas."
Our Lady of the Roses message of August 14, 1973 may indicate the presence of hydrogen cyanide in the Ball of Redemption:
Veronica - And I see the people lying out beyond the doors. They seem to
be falling over. Somewhere in the air, there is something that is cutting off
their breathing, because they're clutching at their throats. And they're falling
forward on their faces....
The explosion--it's like, almost like a bomb being dropped.... It's a ball.
It's a fiery ball, and it's spinning and going about the globe.
And it's trailing a long tail. It has gases. (August
14, 1973)
The possibility that Comet Kohoutek was the Ball of Redemption was further bolstered by a miraculous photo given on February 10, 1973 with the letters "KOH," a month prior to the discovery of Comet Kohoutek.
On the April 12, 1996 These Last Days radio show, Mrs. Ann Ferguson (Veronica's long-time personal secretary) revealed some interesting facts about Comet Kohoutek. The following is a transcription of Mrs. Ann Ferguson's statements during this radio show:
"On February 10, 1973 we received a miraculous photograph showing the letters KOH and no one knew what the letters meant. This was before Comet Kohoutek was discovered. We also received a miraculous photo of a huge fiery red ball with yellow and white coloring on top of the ball. When Veronica received this photo, she phoned the planetarium explaining this photo of the large fiery red ball with the yellow and white coloring on top of the ball. The man at the planetarium was amazed at this photo because he said it was the description of a comet, which has not been made known to the public. Shortly after the news of the Comet Kohoutek was publicized through all the news media. It was said that this comet was the most widely publicized comet of all times. They called it mysterious and awesome for its phantom qualities. On October 6, 1973, there was another miraculous photo showing the a large fiery red ball with yellow and white coloring on top of the Ball and a pilgrim holding a Rosary next to the Ball. Veronica said, the Rosary being held aloft symbolically holds back the Ball which Veronica stated was then the Comet Kohoutek due to pass near the [sun] on December 28, 1973, but averted by the many Rosaries prayed."
A great darkness over the earth
Another detail from Our Lady of the Roses message on August 14, 1973 indicates that a great darkness will cover the earth after the Ball of Redemption:
Veronica - Now I see a
great, large—I know it's a powerhouse. It's a large building, a stone
building. And they're pulling on all these levers. But I see fear, great fear in
the faces of all these men. They're running up and down steps. There are levers
on the steps, and they're pulling at these levers. But nothing's happening. And
they're—now they're running down the stairs, and they're running outside.
And when they run outside it's like going into total blackness. There
are no lights, and it's dark, pitch black.
I see the men trying to walk outside. They're talking;
two men are talking to each other by the door. They want to reach their cars,
but they cannot find the distance. One man is groping his way, and the other is
just standing. (August 14, 1973)
This corresponds to what scientists say would have occurred after the huge asteroid impact many years ago in the Yucatan peninsula.
According to Cathy Plesko,
research scientist in Applied Physics at
Near-earth objects
Since 1998, the United States, European Union, and other countries have made a concerted effort to discover and catalogue near-earth objects or NEOs, especially potentially hazardous asteroids in earth-crossing orbits. As of 2018, there were over 18,000 known NEOs, with an average of 40 being discovered every week. The present catalogue of these objects is staggering, as illustrated by this animation by NASA's Jet Propulsion Laboratory.
The Ball of Redemption will be the second part of the Great
Chastisement, following the first part which is the Third World War. Our Lady
has called the chastising comet the Ball of Redemption (please read Directives
60,
61 and
62), because many will
turn back to God through this chastisement, and save their souls before they
die. The Ball of Redemption will be guided by the Eternal Father and be of
supernatural origin.
This comet has been prophesied not only by the Bayside
apparitions, but is probably Wormwood in the Bible (Revelations 8:11) that falls
into the sea. The chastising comet has also been prophesied by several Catholic
saints, including St.
Hildegard.
Miracle of the
Sun at Fatima Portugal, October 13, 1917
Veronica
Lueken's description of the Ball of Redemption has several similarities to what
The second similarity is that Veronica described the
Ball of Redemption as giving off "all the colors of the rainbow" (May
10, 1973), which was also what witnesses saw at Fatima.
Describing the Miracle of the Sun, Father Inacio Lourenço stated that "It spun like a
firewheel, taking on all the colors of the rainbow." It looked
"like a ball of snow, revolving upon itself." (Whole
Truth of
Maria do Carmo recalls: "The sun took on all the colors of
the rainbow. Everything took on the same colors: our faces, our clothes, the
earth itself." (Whole Truth of
The Miracle of the Sun was not only an awe-inspiring
phenomenon, with witnesses marveling at the display, it was also a frightening
event. According to Bro. Michael of the Holy Trinity, "the spectators had the
irresistible impression that the sun was going to fall on them."
Almeida Garrett stated:
"Then, suddenly, one heard a clamor, a cry of anguish
breaking from all the people. The sun, whirling wildly, seemed to loosen itself
from the firmament and advance threateningly upon the earth as if to crush us
with its huge and fiery weight. The sensation during those moments was
terrible." (Whole Truth of
The description of Father Inacio Lourenço is most often
cited, according to Bro. Michael, because it is the most detailed description:
"I was only nine
years old at this time, and I went to the local village school (about 12 miles
from
"Outside, the people were shouting and weeping
and pointing to the sun, ignoring the questions of the schoolmistress. It was
the Great Miracle, which one could see quite distinctly from the top of the hill
where my village was situated…
"I feel incapable of describing what I saw and
felt. I looked fixedly at the sun, which seemed pale and did not hurt my eyes.
Looking like a ball of snow revolving upon itself, it suddenly seemed to come
down in a zigzag, menacing the earth. Terrified, I ran and hid myself among the
people, who were weeping and expecting the end of the world at any moment.
"During those long moments of the solar prodigy
objects around us turned all the colors of the rainbow…." (Whole
Truth of
I was also only nine years old when I saw this immense
object in the night sky over
I have had flashbacks of the event several times a week, for the past 44 years.
Veronica - I know it's a comet. It, it's a round ball of fire, and it's
traveling at a very fast pace through the sky. And it's so hot! I can feel the
heat, the great heat of this long tail. As it's going through space, it's
shooting out a tremendous fiery tail. Oh!
Our Lady -
"I repeat, My child, your country shall not escape the destruction of
the fires, as you will be planet-struck.
"As
in the days of Noe, My child, many shall reject the Message from Heaven." - Our
Lady, July 25, 1975
"The devastation of the Chastisement shall be a scene to many far greater in scope and magnitude than mankind has ever seen in the past nor ever will in the future. For there will be few left upon earth if I do not come and stop the terrible War and the calamity of the Ball of Redemption that will soon hit mankind. Man shall not be prepared for this great trial. Only those who act upon and listen to the counsel from Heaven shall be ready. And those who are not prepared--sad, My children, but true, that many shall die of fright." - Jesus, June 1, 1978
Directives from Heaven
D60 - The Great Comet Chastisement (Part 4) PDF
D61 - The Great Comet Chastisement (Part 5) PDF
D62 - The Great Comet Chastisement (Part 6) PDF
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